Discuss: Tesla Confirms Hardware 3 is Robotaxi Ready

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Tesla Confirms Hardware 3 is Robotaxi Ready

Tesla confirms Hardware 3 to receive Robotaxi and Unsupervised FSD Support.

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[Sylvain]

So why is he saying no with his head when saying "you're good to go"?

 

[zroger73]

Lars' answer about HW3 was anything but confident and convincing.

I wasn't willing to pay for a feature that may or may never work when I bought my '23 Model Y with HW3, so if it is never able to drive itself for the remainder of the time I own it, I haven't lost anything.

I plan to purchase another Tesla in a year or two, which will have HW4 or HW5. If it can drive itself and the cost of the feature is reasonable to me, I'll buy it.

 

[PrescottAZRichard]

What else do you expect Tesla to say at this point? Since FSD doesn't exist no one can argue either way.
IMO Tesla has churned through a LOT of customers because FSD isn't finished, add to that the service issues during the growth period and you have a lot of good will down the drain. Then, add to that Elon and even more good will is gone.
I hate to be the 'shut up and play basketball' person but I really feel like saying that to Elon and Tesla . Stop announcing future stuff and stop promoting BS on X, just get FSD working.
Once FSD is perfected (if??) we all know for SURE there will still be years of convincing the relevent government agencies to okay it. The insurance companies will have to adjust.

 

[zroger73]

The insurance companies will have to adjust.

Rest assured that the very moment data conclusively demonstrates that FSD is any degree safer than the average human driver, insurance rates for manually-driven vehicles will increase and eventually become unaffordable for the average person.

 

[joe_apxc]

Well, at this point i learnt to not take any promises for granted at Tesla. But its fine. I bought my 2021 M3 with HW3 to keep it on long term (no leasing) and i see everything that gets to my hardware as bonus, as it wasnt there when i bought it. Luckily, the FSD Package was already on it and it did not affect the price because i bought it second hand. Apart from that, its fun to drive and i would not wanna miss it but i still do hope FSD makes its way over here

 

[RNHurt]

Well, at this point i learnt to not take any promises for granted at Tesla. But its fine. I bought my 2021 M3 with HW3 to keep it on long term (no leasing) and i see everything that gets to my hardware as bonus, as it wasnt there when i bought it. Luckily, the FSD Package was already on it and it did not affect the price because i bought it second hand. Apart from that, its fun to drive and i would not wanna miss it but i still do hope FSD makes its way over here

I'm learning to accept the fact that my '20 MX will probably always be behind on updates, even the fun ones. My plan going forward is to just enjoy the car for the next several years and move to a newer one when a major update happens.

Things I'm wanting in my next Tesla (probably a MX):

• 48v architecture
• front bumper camera
• proportional steering / steer-by-wire
• interior updates (accent lighting, rear display(s), etc.)

Basically a Cybertruck but without all the cyber or truck.

 

[joe_apxc]

I'm learning to accept the fact that my '20 MX will probably always be behind on updates, even the fun ones. My plan going forward is to just enjoy the car for the next several years and move to a newer one when a major update happens.

Things I'm wanting in my next Tesla (probably a MX):

• 48v architecture
• front bumper camera
• proportional steering / steer-by-wire
• interior updates (accent lighting, rear display(s), etc.)

Basically a Cybertruck but without all the cyber or truck.

Add 240V sockets for the trunk and frunk on your list and i would be happy too

 

[RNHurt]

Add 240V sockets for the trunk and frunk on your list and i would be happy too

Ooooo ... those are good additions!!

 

[PrescottAZRichard]

Not to get too off topic but- I'd love to see a CyberX instead of the X being based on the S. That would be doubling down .

 

[RNHurt]

Not to get too off topic but- I'd love to see a CyberX instead of the X being based on the S. That would be doubling down .

HOLY CARP!!! That is a really good idea!

 

[michaelmcgaw]

I have a very hard time believing that HW3 is Robotaxi Ready. That would indicate an FSD Unsupervised level of ability.

FSD Supervised on HW3 seems to be less than ready for normal city driving; well, normal highway driving as well. Even with a human driver it's very dicey. Frankly, I'm somewhat afraid to engage 12.5.4.1 again.

 

[joe_apxc]

I have a very hard time believing that HW3 is Robotaxi Ready. That would indicate an FSD Unsupervised level of ability.

FSD Supervised on HW3 seems to be less than ready for normal city driving; well, normal highway driving as well. Even with a human driver it's very dicey. Frankly, I'm somewhat afraid to engage 12.5.4.1 again.

As it turns out, Elon has admitted he is not 100% sure if HW3 can achieve full autonomy. But there could be a upgrade option for the Autopilot Computer although they said it was not possible. Maybe we can retrofit our HW3 cars to be capable of full autonomy. Lets see