Discuss: Tesla’s FSD V13 Pushes HW4 Hardware Capabilities; End of Line for HW3?

VoodooPriest

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I'm on HW3 and generally satisfied, but I hope more can be done. I'd be more pissed to be on HW4 and already hearing it is pushing its limits.

I'm probably not in the market for a new vehicle for another 2-3 years, but I'm interested in the future of non-Tesla EVs. My gut says there is a more reliable path coming from the big automakers. If Tesla remains as random as it is now, with a crazy man twitting stupidity about America and his company/features/features that never show up, I'll be moving on.
 
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If Tesla remains as random as it is now, with a crazy man twitting stupidity about America and his company/features/features that never show up, I'll be moving on.
Same. I will keep my current HW3 M3 LR even longer probably. Because for the European Union theres not even FSD Beta in sight yet, so maybe AI5 is a thing when FSD gets released here, so it would be stupid to go for HW4 now, hearing its already pushing the limits :D

This makes me question if FSD Beta (Supervised) will ever be released for HW3 in Europe. Or if we also get the HW4 replacement computer.
 
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Procal

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This is exactly what my concerns have been for a while now. It always seemed to me that the aspirations for HW4 were very big. I am honestly quite upset about it, seeing as I only just last year (2024) bought a brand-new Model 3 LR. Now, hearing that HW4 limits are already being pushed, and I am only a year into ownership, does not give me hope or confidence for the future of FSD on my vehicle. What makes it even worse in my opinion is that I am not willing to purchase FSD outright for exactly this reason, but it seems that is the only way that a future (possible) hardware upgrade is possible. My question to Tesla would be, why are we constantly fighting this battle of ever-increasing hardware needs and underpowered hardware that only last a few years at best? Would it not be better to WAY over build the hardware required or optimize the FSD models and then size the hardware appropriately? At the very least, they should not overpromise and under deliver on the hardware capabilities. I would definitely not want to be a Tesla investor right now, and if things continue this way, I may be looking to other brands as well when it comes time to swap out my car.