FSD Beta numbers and everything else revealed at Tesla's Q2 earnings call

Tesla produces its 2 millionth vehicle at Fremont/Nevada

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Yesterday Tesla held its second quarter earnings call. Although Elon Musk has previously said he wouldn't be on earnings calls in the future, he did make this one.

As with previous earnings calls, plenty of data and statistics were revealed relating to production, future products, and FSD Beta.

Below is a recap of the entire event, including the Q&A session. The recap was originally posted to dburkland.com.

You can also listen to the earnings call below. The call begins at the 11 minute mark.

Opening remarks from Elon Musk

• Unique quarter for Tesla due to Shanghai shutdown
• Production records achieved in Fremont & Shanghai
• Set up nicely for record breaking 2nd half of 2022
• Past years have thrown several force majeure at Tesla yet the team continues to overcome
• Giga Berlin Production Ramp continues with 1000 cars / week in June, Giga Austin to follow with the same number in the next few months
• Still making cars w/ 2170 cells in parallel and important to note they aren’t dependent on 4680s and will still hit their production numbers 
• FSD Beta deployed to over 100,000 owners
• 5-6 years ago they set out to be the best manufacturer in the world
  • Pro-manufacturing mindset has given them a competitive edge
• Currently make the largest castings in the world
• As a result of improved manufacturing processes in Berlin & Texas, Tesla has reduced body welding robot count by 70% per unit of capacity
  • Body shop is roughly 3x smaller as it would be otherwise
  • New vehicle bodies are lighter, cheaper, and quieter thanks to reduction in NVH
  • Another level of simplicity and improvements are coming with Cybertruck (as well as future products coming down the road)
• Intelligent seat belt tensioning based on vision system recently released, first in the industry to do this
  • Can also adjust the airbag deployment as well
  • Delivered via OTA update
  • Will have profound impact on passenger safety
  • Compatible for all HW3-equipped Teslas
• Cybertruck
  • Production still expected to start middle of 2023
  • “Best product ever” -Elon
• FSD Beta
  • Planned to be released to all North American customers by end of 2022
  • FSD will then be released to other geos such as Asia and EU soon after pending regulatory approval

Opening remarks from Zach Kirkhorn

• Made substantial progress in almost every area of the business
• New production records reached in existing factories and new ones actively ramping
• Highest solar production volumes in years
• Temporary shutdown had noticeable impact to vehicle margin
  • Factory ramping also associated with negative impact on vehicle margin
• Inflation, commodities, and logistics continue to be headwinds
• Resource constrained on Powerwall and Megapack which should be resolved in the 2nd half of 2022
• Austin & Berlin operating costs are going down as production ramps up
• Tesla sold 75% of Bitcoin holdings 
  • They did so as they were uncertain when COVID lockdowns in China would end
  • As a result they wanted to maximize cash position
  • They are still interested in Bitcoin and have not yet sold any Dogecoin
• Highest operating margins ever at 14.6%
• Still targeting 50% of growth and still within reach

Q&A

• Chinese EV Manufacturers & Software Innovation
  • Elon believes Tesla China is the best EV manufacturer in China
  • Chinese car companies will be a force to be reckoned with going forward
  • Tesla has respect for Chinese automakers but believes they have whats necessary to compete
• Unified Vector Space
  • Unified Vector Space would be if instead of knitting together dynamic & static objects w/ C++ you knit them together at the NN level (meaning you no longer need to reconcile them in C++ heuristics)
  • Architecturally better way
  • Slight improvement in efficiency of FSD stack and something they want to get to
  • Nirvana situation would be to have surround video auto labeling for all static & dynamic objects as well as surround video inference w/ spacial memory
  • Elon believes they have a unified vector space by the end of 2022
  • Elon is also very confident that Tesla will improve the frame rate as they delete legacy NNs and further optimize the FSD software stack
  • The goal is to get FSD Beta to operate at 36fps for all 8 cameras compared to the current 24 frames which will reduce latency when reacting to a dynamic environment
• Inflation & Future Price Reductions
  • They do not control so therefore Elon says take w/ grain salt but thinks inflation to decrease by end of 2022
  • Carbon, steel, aluminum, etc are trending down in cost which should see impact later in 2022, early 2023
  • Processing of lithium is insanely costly
  • Elon again encouraging entrepreneurs to enter the lithium business as there are, “software margins”
  • “License to print money” -Elon
• Bitcoin
  • Cryptocurrency is not something Tesla thinks about a lot according to Elon
  • Main goal is production and addressing climate change by making sustainable energy & transport a reality
• 4680s
  • Structural pack is a monumental step forward from a physics perspective and is the way to go
  • Gained perspective through entering production w/ structural pack Teslas which proved their hypotheses
  • Cost improvements are thanks to solving technical issues and scale
  • They have saved 4-5kg in mass from the early cast Model Y underbodies since their initial production
  • Plan is to reduce mass of castings and to include more parts (and to adapt vehicle to work better with castings)
  • Cybertruck will be another big step in this area
  • Making progress on 4680 production ramp but continuing to leverage supplier cells (2170s) to ramp Giga Berlin & Texas
  • Total production ramp of 4680 packs to 1000 per week by end of the year (preferably earlier)
  • Q2 @ Kato fully automated powder conveyance for the dry anode electrode tool there unlocking major improvements in production & yields too
  • Production as a result has increased 35% MoM since March and yields throughout factory are already at targets or trending towards them
  • Took learnings from Fremont cell & pack lines and built optimized lines in Giga Berlin & Texas
  • Cell design was revved to unlock higher performance and manufacturing simplicity
  • Lines were fully integrated and insourced additional content
  • As a result new challenges for ramping in Giga Berlin & Texas
  • Last quarter cell equipment was fully installed at Giga Texas and they have since produced their first commissioning car sets of 4680s cells
  • The target for Texas is to begin mass producing 4680 cells in Q3 2022 with the goal of being able to exceed the weekly cell production capacity of the Kato battery plant by end of 2022
  • Priority with 4680s initially is simplicity and scale, Tesla was not aiming to include all of the bells & whistles right off the bat
  • As manufacturing goals are achieved they plan to layer in new material technologies into their structural packs (and increase range as well)
  • Currently in regards to 4680s Tesla’s main focus is to remove low hanging issues that would prevent further production ramp
  • Dry electrode anode & cathode are included in the current 4680 process which makes things harder to ramp (yet they continue to achieve success here)
  • Once mass production achieved they plan to quickly iterate w/ an increase in energy density and overall performance soon thereafter
  • Tesla cell production will continue to compliment production volumes from suppliers
  • Fundamental rate limiter for transition to sustainable energy is rate of li-ion battery pack production
    • Not due to scarcity of raw materials, refining lithium in ultra high purity is quite difficult and requires massive amounts of machinery
    • Super difficult to create anode and cathode
    • Elon believes 2/3 of batteries in the future will be iron phosphate, maybe some with manganese
    • Tesla is actively working with suppliers to ramp as quick as possible
  • Tesla is taking action by building their own Cathode plant at Giga Texas as well as taking the plunge into lithium refinement
• FSD Development Progress & Andrej Departure
  • While Andrej Karpathy will be missed (recent departure), Elon remains very bullish on current team of 120 people in software / AI group and believes that they will solve FSD by end of 2022
  • No major setbacks or delays in FSD timeline should occur as a result of Andrej’s departure
  • Elon believes they will raise FSD price just before they go to wide beta (targeted for end of 2022)
  • Value of FSD is extremely high and not well understood by most people, Elon thinks its ridiculously cheap if promises of performance materialize
• Semiconductor Supply Chain Constraints
  • Tesla procures about 1600 unique pieces of silicon from 43 different companies
  • Supply chains are more stable w/ latest generation of chips
  • Chips from the analog & mixed signaling space still remain a challenge from a supply chain perspective
  • Supply chain line of sight continues to match planned outputs for both factories (no constraints)
  • Long term contracts already in place for key battery materials and so there are no concerns about future constraints
  • Tesla does not plan to manufacture their own chips however they continue to work with suppliers to ensure future product goals are achieved
  • Chip shortage forced Teslas to delete redundant chips and update software accordingly (big positive in hindsight)
• Cybertruck
  • Deliveries to begin by the middle of 2023
• Vehicle Demand
  • Vehicle demand not an issue for Tesla for the foreseeable future
  • No sizable macro impact on demand
  • Difference between value in money and affordability and why you can’t just keep increasing prices
  • Elon feels that they have raised prices to “frankly embarrassing levels”
    • Supply chain and inflation are main culprits for price increases
    • Elon is hopeful Tesla can reduce prices soon
  • Elon thinks its achievable to produce 40,000 vehicles per week by end of 2022
    • Teslas has already produced 30,000 vehicles per week many times, 40,000 vehicles per week is definitely in reach
    • Plan is to get Giga Berlin & Texas to ramp to 5,000 vehicles per week by end of 2022 and 10,000 vehicles per week by end of 2023
  • Elon reaffirms that Tesla does not have a demand problem but instead a production problem
• Elon’s Role At Tesla
  • If there is only good news Elon won’t plan to join the future earnings calls
  • Elon is committed to working at Tesla as long as he can continue to help advance the company
• AI
  • Elon didn’t want to steal thunder from AI day so he will save the news / updates regarding Dojo & Optimus for then

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Tesla LFP Batteries Can Now Be Warmed up While Supercharging Using Innovative Feature

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Tesla’s been on a roll with Supercharger improvements lately, from the 325kW charging update for the Cybertruck, to 500kW with V4 Superchargers coming next year. While those improvements have been limited to the Cybertruck, Tesla didn’t put all their focus on their new flagship vehicle, but looked at their more affordable vehicles as well.

LFP Battery Heating

Tesla’s Superchargers can now heat LFP Batteries - those that are in the Model 3 and Model Y Rear Wheel Drive variants. This applies to Long Range and Standard Range models, which saw a limited run. This is another update included as part of the 2024 Tesla Holiday Update - which really arrived with a lot of unannounced new features and capabilities.

The change is pretty interesting - Superchargers of the V3 and V4 variety can now pre-heat batteries for Model 3 and Model Y vehicles equipped with LFP battery packs. That means those vehicles are able to get back on the road faster when it's extremely cold. Of course, Tesla still advises you to precondition before you arrive, saving drivers time and money.

Max de Zegher, Tesla’s Director of Charging, also commented on the new feature. Essentially, Tesla is inducing an AC (alternating) ripple current through the battery to warm it up. Keep in mind that Superchargers are DC charging. That means it is possible to get a cold-soaked LFP vehicle on the road 4x faster than before, assuming that it didn’t precondition at all and that it is in the worst-case scenario (below 0ºF).

In essence, Tesla is using some engineering magic to turn the circuits inside the LFP battery into an electric heater - and powering that heater through the Supercharger. An AC ripple current is a small oscillation in the DC charging current that generates heat through electrical resistance, warming up the battery. Those ripples are a byproduct of converting AC to DC and back - so Tesla is using the onboard charger to induce those ripples to warm up the battery. Definitely an innovative technique that’s really only possible with the versatility of the NACS connector.

We’re hoping Tesla can implement this across their full lineup of vehicles, but we’ll have to wait and see how it is trialed across LFP vehicles first and if it is even possible on vehicles with 2170 or 4680 battery packs.

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Tesla Included FSD V12.6.1 and V13.2.4 in the Same Update: What Caused This and What It Means

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Tesla launched two FSD updates simultaneously on Saturday night, and what’s most interesting is that they arrived on the same software version. We’ll dig into that a little later, but for now, there’s good news for everyone. For Hardware 3 owners, FSD V12.6.1 is launching to all vehicles, including the Model 3 and Model Y. For AI4 owners, FSD V13.2.4 is launching, starting with the Cybertruck.

FSD V13.2.4

A new V13 build is now rolling out to the Cybertruck and is expected to arrive for the rest of the AI4 fleet soon. However, this build seems to be focused on bug fixes. There are no changes to the release notes for the Cybertruck with this release, and it’s unlikely to feature any changes when it arrives on other vehicles.

While this update focuses on bug fixes, Tesla’s already working on bigger features for FSD V13.3, which we have already confirmed to include improvements to highway following and speed control.

FSD V12.6.1

FSD V12.6.1 builds upon V12.6, which is the latest FSD version for HW3 vehicles. While FSD V12.6 was only released for the redesigned Model S and Model X with HW3, FSD V12.6.1 is adding support for the Model 3 and Model Y.

While this is only a bug-fix release for users coming from FSD V12.6, it includes massive improvements for anyone coming from an older FSD version. Two of the biggest changes are the new end-to-end highway stack that now utilizes FSD V12 for highway driving and a redesigned controller that allows FSD to drive “V13” smooth.

It also adds speed profiles, earlier lane changes, and more. You can read our in-depth look at all the changes in FSD V12.6.

Same Update, Multiple FSD Builds

What’s interesting about this software version is that it “includes" two FSD updates, V12.6.1 for HW3 and V13.2.4 for HW4 vehicles. While this is interesting, it’s less special when you understand what’s happening under the hood.

The vehicle’s firmware and Autopilot firmware are actually completely separate. While a vehicle downloading a firmware update may look like a singular process, it’s actually performing several functions during this period. First, it downloads the vehicle’s firmware. Upon unpacking the update, it’s instructed which Autopilot/FSD firmware should be downloaded.

While the FSD firmware is separate, the vehicle can’t download any FSD update. The FSD version is hard-coded in the vehicle’s firmware that was just downloaded. This helps Tesla keep the infotainment and Autopilot firmware tightly coupled, leading to fewer issues.

What we’re seeing here is that HW3 vehicles are being told to download one FSD version, while HW4 vehicles are being told to download a different version.

While this is the first time Tesla has had two FSD versions tied to the same vehicle software version, the process hasn’t actually changed, and what we’re seeing won’t lead to faster FSD updates or the ability to download FSD separately. What we’re seeing is the direct result of the divergence of HW3 and HW4.

While HW3/4 remained basically on the same FSD version until recently, it is now necessary to deploy different versions for the two platforms. We expect this to be the norm going forward, where HW3 will be on a much different version of FSD than HW4. While each update may not include two different FSD versions going forward, we may see it occasionally, depending on which features Autopilot is dependent on.

Thanks to Greentheonly for helping us understand what happened with this release and for the insight into Tesla’s processes.

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