Tesla’s Updates FSD Roadmap: Talks FSD V13 and End-to-End Highway

By Not a Tesla App Staff
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Last month Tesla shared a roadmap with its progress on FSD and its goals for the coming months. Since we’re coming to the end of October and Tesla had yet to release the two items listed under October, we asked Tesla if they could provide an updated roadmap to help keep everyone’s expectations in line.

We’re not sure whether Tesla saw our message or already had plans to provide an updated roadmap, but today Tesla published an update to its initial roadmap.

Instead of focusing on timelines, Tesla has now simply published what their AI team is working on and what customers could expect next.

Tesla’s Original Timeline

The roadmap Tesla provided in early September focused on FSD improvements, releasing Actually Smart Summon, FSD on Cybertruck, FSD v13, and the expansion of FSD outside of North America.

This was Tesla’s initial roadmap which was provided on September 5th.

September 2024

  • v12.5.2 with ~3x improved miles between necessary interventions

  • v12.5.2 on AI3 computer (unified models for AI3 and AI4)

  • Actually Smart Summon

  • Cybertruck Autopark

  • Eye-tracking with sunglasses

  • End-to-End network on highway

  • Cybertruck FSD

October 2024

  • Unpark, Park and Reverse in FSD

  • v13 with ~6x improved miles between necessary interventions

Q1 2025

  • FSD in Europe (pending regulatory approval)

  • FSD in China (pending regulatory approval)

Elon Musk also replied to Tesla’s post, saying that, hopefully, right-hand drive markets will also get FSD in late Q1 or early Q2.

Goals Tesla Met

While we’re only at the end of October, Tesla managed to check off their September goals with a perfect score, nailing all of their goals such as eye-tracking with sunglasses, FSD on the Cybertruck and releasing Actually Smart Summon in the United States and Canada.

They also released the unified FSD model for HW3 and AI4, although it seems like the good news may stop there for HW3 owners. At least Tesla has recently said HW3 owners will get a free upgrade to more capable hardware if Tesla isn’t able to achieve unsupervised FSD on those vehicles.

Goals Tesla Is Still Working On

Although the company met its September milestones, the October goals have been delayed. Initially targeting the release of unpark, park, and reverse features and FSD v13 for October, Tesla now plans to integrate these features with FSD v13 in November.

The delay isn’t surprising given the ambitious goals, but we’re thrilled to see that Tesla is keeping the communication lines open.

The goals Tesla set to release FSD outside of North America are still to be determined, but we presume they may shift slightly due to the delay of FSD v13.

What’s Coming

While Tesla avoided dates and timelines for their upcoming features, they actually provided a lot more detail on what they’re working on and what we can expect in FSD v13. Unfortunately for HW3 owners, most of these improvements appear to be destined for Hardware 4 (AI4).

Complete Rollout of End-to-End

Tesla’s first item on its updated list is to complete the rollout of its end-to-end highway stack. Tesla’s current highway stack is based on FSD v11 and doesn’t feature end-to-end AI, meaning that AI is only used for input and not to control the vehicle. End-to-end AI essentially has AI managing everything in the vehicle, from detecting objects and lane markers to the steering and brake pedals.

Tesla started including end-to-end for highway driving in FSD v12.5.5 for the Cybertruck and then opened it up to other AI4 vehicles with FSD 12.5.6. The latest public FSD version is FSD 12.5.6.1, but it’s only available for AI4 vehicles.

The majority of vehicles with FSD are still on version 12.5.4, which doesn’t include the new highway stack. Tesla aims to release the updated highway stack to all AI4 vehicles next week, which will also include improvements to stop smoothness and improved bad weather notifications.

Actually Smart Summon

While Actually Smart Summon was released in September in North America, most of the world is still waiting. Tesla now says that A.S.S. will be available in other regions but didn’t provide a timeline. Users who bought or subscribe to Enhanced Autopilot or FSD in Europe should expect to receive this feature as part of Tesla’s normal feature releases instead of being a part of a special FSD build. It’s possible this could come in Tesla’s next major update, possibly 2024.44.

It’s not clear whether Tesla’s list was in any sort of order, but if it is, we could expect Actually Smart Summon sooner rather than later.

Improved FSD for HW3

Tesla’s updated list was largely focused on FSD for AI4, but HW3 did get mentioned in one bullet point item. Tesla says that HW3 should receive improved FSD v12.5.x models for city driving. Unfortunately, this almost sounds like bad news. AI4 mentions in the roadmap talk about FSD v13 and end-to-end highway support, while HW3 specifically states improved “city-driving,” possibly saying that end-to-end highway driving is not coming to HW3 vehicles soon.

Given that a new version of FSD v12.5.4.2 just started rolling out for HW3 vehicles, it looks like it may be a while before HW3 owners have access to the new highway stack. Earlier this month, Musk said that HW3 owners should receive an update that will increase FSD’s smoothness, so it seems like this is what Tesla is referring to in their roadmap.

FSD V13

The rest of Tesla’s post was dedicated to FSD v13. Tesla provided a lot of specifics such as FSD v13 unlocking the full resolution of Tesla’s HW4 cameras. The computer will now process full-resolution video at 36 FPS instead of using lower frames per second or scaling the video down.

FSD v13 will also increase the AI model by three times and data by 4.2 times. Tesla expects this to provide better collision avoidance, improved traffic controls and navigation.

FSD Unsupervised Feature Complete

Tesla’s VP of AI, Ashok Elluswamy, is just as excited about v13. He reposted Telsa’s post and said that a lot of work is going into the FSD v13 release and that Tesla expects v13 to make FSD Unsupervised feature complete. This is far from saying that FSD v13 will achieve autonomy, but simply that all the pieces of the puzzle are now in place with v13. The car will be able to navigate from a garage to its parking spot at a destination without any human input. Each of these pieces will likely still need to be refined over time to achieve unsupervised FSD.

Release Date for FSD V13

Tesla is targeting the release of FSD v13 to employees by the end of this week. Tesla expects the update to go through several iterations before it’s released to customers in FSD v13.3. Tesla says that the target launch for a public version of FSD v13.3 is around Thanksgiving for AI4 vehicles.

FSD Arrival Options

In addition to FSD v13 including the ability to “unpark,” reverse and park itself, Tesla will also add various options for when the vehicle arrives at its destination. Users will be able to choose from simply pulling over, parking in a parking spot or driveway or even a garage.

We believe that “unpark” in this statement refers to the ability for the user to engage Autopilot while the vehicle is still parked. The vehicle will automatically shift from Park to Drive and drive or reverse out of its parking spot before proceeding to its destination.

Detecting Emergency Vehicles

One other item Tesla pointed out in their roadmap is that FSD v13 will process audio inputs to better handle emergency vehicles. FSD now appears to rely only on detecting emergency vehicles visually, but with FSD v13, Teslas will be able to detect them audibly as well. Unfortunately, all Teslas only have microphones inside the cabin, which are currently used for phone calls and voice commands, but Tesla will soon continuously process the audio to detect emergency vehicles and potentially other things.

Outlook

Tesla has already integrated some v13 improvements and reports a 4x increase in miles between necessary interventions compared to v12.5.4. It’s clear that Tesla’s focus is on AI4 and reaching its goal of Unsupervised FSD. They appear very focused on this goal and will do whatever it takes to get there. Right now, that means focusing on AI4, but if at any point they run out of compute power needed there, they could shift to AI5, but that’s not expected to happen any time soon.

AI5, which is included in the Cybercab, isn’t expected to be released until the end of the year. We expect Tesla to continue marching toward achieving autonomy, regardless of the power required. Once they can figure out FSD, they can work backwards to get it working on older hardware.

LiveOne Announces Tesla Subscription Pricing

By Karan Singh
Drive Tesla Canada

LiveOne, previously known as Slacker Radio (or “Streaming” in your Tesla), has officially launched its Tesla exclusive subscription. Tesla and LiveOne’s agreement to include a free Slacker/LiveOne Premium subscription in Teslas has lapsed, and owners will now have to pay for their own premium subscription to the service if they want to continue to have an ad-free experience.

Tesla recently removed Spotify Premium in Europe from its Premium Connectivity package as well. While Spotify already has pricing open and available, LiveOne said it would launch a Tesla-exclusive subscription.

You can continue LiveOne without paying a subscription cost, but after December 1st, you’ll notice that ads will be inserted into the stream and you’ll have limited skip options.

LiveOne Tesla Premium

LiveOne is offering two subscription tiers, each with exclusive Tesla pricing. The first tier is LiveOne Plus, which costs $3.99/mo, or $34.99/yr. LiveOne Premium, on the other hand, costs $9.99/mo or $99.99/yr.

LiveOne Plus includes music history, both in-app and in-vehicle, ad-free music, unlimited song skips, maximum audio quality, premium music stations, podcasts, audiobooks, and videos. However, it seems that LiveOne Plus does not allow users to listen to the song they want on demand but will instead play a “radio station” with that song potentially included somewhere in the playlist.

LiveOne Premium allows users to listen on demand and offline. You’ll be able to select what song you want to listen to, as well as queue up music as you’d like. In addition, this will allow you to download music from LiveOne. However, Tesla doesn’t currently support these features, so it’s not clear whether these capabilities will come in the future or they’ll only be available on other devices.

Overall, the packages aren’t too expensive, but other alternatives, including Spotify, Apple Music, TIDAL, Amazon Music, and Google Music, are all available. Larger competitors offer the same or better features but at a higher price point.

LiveOne’s offerings are more limited, but if you’re used to using LiveOne or want something cheap, then this could be a good alternative to some of the other music offerings.

We’re glad to see vendors offering Tesla-specific subscription pricing and hope to see more of this from other streaming services in the future.

Tesla to Allow Drivers to Display License Plates in Vehicle Visualization

By Karan Singh
Rendering of what Tesla's license plate feature could look like
Rendering of what Tesla's license plate feature could look like
Not a Tesla App

Tesla update 2024.38 has started rolling out to several regions and vehicles. Thanks to Tesla hacker Greentheonly, we have a behind-the-scenes look at some new features coming to Teslas.

License Plate Display

According to Greentheonly, it looks like Tesla may soon let you display your actual license plate in the vehicle’s visualization on the screen. In our article, The Most Request Tesla Features, several readers suggested displaying the vehicle’s license plate in the visualization instead of a blank, white plate.

It looks like Tesla will be doing just that, at least in China. Green found references that appear to conclude that you’ll be able to display your vehicle’s plate on screen. This will likely be user input, so you could have it say anything you’d like, and it doesn’t have to be your actual license plate.

For many owners, who may find it difficult to remember their license plate, this could serve a practical purpose in addition to adding to the visualization's realism.

While Green was only able to say it’ll be available in China, we expect this is due to China’s software development team working on it and that it’ll eventually be released worldwide.

We’ve seen several features originally released in China and later applied to everyone. Some of these include the Air Quality Index display, the trip meter that displays traffic along your route, and even the ability to change your vehicle’s color.

While code for this feature was found in update 2024.38, we may not be turned on in China yet. We suspect this feature may be a strong candidate for Tesla’s upcoming holiday update.

FSD Hardware Version Display

As part of the 2024.38 update, Tesla has now made it easy to determine whether your vehicle includes Hardware 3 or Hardware 4. You can now simply navigate to Controls > Software and tap Additional Vehicle Information. In addition to other hardware information about your vehicle, your Autopilot hardware version will now be listed as well.

You can see whether your vehicle has HW2.5, HW3, or AI4. This in-car display is useful, but if you don’t have access to the vehicle, you can always use our guide on how to determine the hardware version of a Tesla.

New Battery Health Test & Service Mode Improvements

Green found some additional things as well. There’s a new and improved Battery Health Test. The new test will show you how your car scores compared to similar vehicles in the Tesla fleet.

In addition, maintenance records can now be permanently stored “in the car.” It doesn’t appear that this feature is activated yet, but it’s likely in active development with some parts leaking out in the 2024.38 update.

Tesla has included various Service Mode improvements and new visualizations in this update.

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