Everything Tesla Announced During Its Earnings Call - Robotaxi Details, HW3 Support, FSD and More

By Karan Singh
Not a Tesla App

Did you miss Tesla’s Q3 2024 Earnings Call, or just want to review everything Tesla announced? Either way, we’ve got an outline of everything Tesla announced during the call.

This call was strongly focused on autonomy and revealed a lot more details about Tesla’s plans for its ride sharing service and the Cybercab.

Below is a section-by-section outline of both the actual earnings call and Q&A session and the investor slide deck.

Autonomy and FSD

  • Tesla is still focusing hard on autonomy

  • There were 50 autonomous vehicles at the We, Robot event

    • Carried thousands of people with no incidents or issues

    • 20 were Cybercabs and 30 were regular Model Ys

  • Cybercab will reach volume production by 2026

    • Expected to reach 2 million units per year for initial capacity

    • Tesla could see expanding it to 4 million units per year

  • There have been significant improvements in FSD year-to-date

    • FSD launched in the Cybertruck, FSD V12.5 launched most recently

    • Actually Smart Summon is a taste of Unsupervised FSD

    • Single Stack for Highway and City, all end-to-end, all neural nets coming soon in V13

    • 100x improvement in miles per intervention between FSD v11.4.9 and FSD v12.5

    • Tesla expects a 5-6x improvement in miles per intervention between FSD v12.5 and FSD v13

    • By Q2 next year Tesla expects FSD to have higher miles per critical intervention than the average human’s miles per collision

      • This is the “safer than a human” mark Tesla is aiming for

    • Hardware 4 has made significant strides in helping progress FSD due to the available processing power

  • Tesla will continue to roll out more 30-day trials with every significant FSD improvement

    • FSD has seen an increased take-rate after We, Robot

Internal Testing for Robotaxi

  • Tesla employees in the California Bay Area have already been testing Tesla’s Robotaxi service, which is run with Model Y’s

    • These vehicles have a safety driver

    • Tesla is also testing the Robotaxi / ridesharing app internally

Ride Hailing

  • Ride Hailing/Robotaxi network’s initial rollout will begin in Texas and maybe California next year

    • California’s regulatory approvals will be challenging, and Texas may happen sooner.

    • California may be delayed to 2026

    • Other states that follow Texas could come sooner

  • Driverless Teslas will be offering paid rides sometime next year

  • Some recently released features were designed for the Robotaxi, but went to every Tesla

    • Robotaxis will automatically load and adopt your Tesla profile, logging you into media apps, adjusting the vehicle’s climate and seat settings for comfort

    • Navigation can be done with the phone app, and you can also track progress of Robotaxis on-route

  • Cybercab, Models S3XY, already meet federal vehicle regulations for autonomy

  • State vehicle regulations are all over the place, each state has different (or no) process for autonomy

Hardware 3

  • “Vast Majority” of Tesla’s vehicles on the road today will be capable of autonomy

  • Tesla will continue to iterate FSD on HW4 first, and then backport to HW3

  • HW3 does not “fundamentally support” kernel features, and Tesla has to use tricks and additional work to get it to function

  • Elon admits he is not 100% sure HW3 will be capable of autonomy

  • If HW3 cannot do the job, Tesla will upgrade HW3 computers for owners who have purchased FSD.

    • Tesla has previously said multiple times this was not possible, this is big news

    • Upgrade will only cover the inference computers, not cameras or other parts

Affordable Model - 25K

  • Tesla’s more affordable model is still on track for the first half of 2025.

  • It will be built on the same next-gen platform as Cybercab, with an estimated 5.5mi/kWh.

    • This will be Tesla’s most efficient powertrain.

  • Tesla will continue to innovate to reduce the cost of its current lineup (S, 3, X, Y, CT).

    • CT is now profit neutral/approaching profitability

Semi

  • Semi factory is well under construction, CapEx for the factory is complete

  • Pilot builds of the updated Semi begin next year

  • Production ramp begins in 2026

  • Lots of signaled demand from trucking companies

    • Tesla is not expecting a demand issue

  • Cost per mile per ton is far lower than diesel trucks

    • Companies that don’t adopt Semi won’t be able to keep up

  • Pepsi’s drivers don’t want to go back to their old vehicles, fight to stay on Tesla’s Semis

  • “Couple hundred” already deployed this year

    • Tesla is training the Semi fleet on FSD, will deploy FSD to the Semi when its ready.

Roadster

  • Roadster is the “cherry on the icing on the cake”

  • Not a priority for the Tesla mission

  • Will come after other items that have a bigger impact on the mission (25K Model, etc.,)

  • Design is close to finalization

Service

  • Tesla is trying to fix issues upstream - at the factory level - to reduce service wait times

  • Tesla is looking to establish dedicated service facilities where they have dedicated lanes and technicians for certain specific issues

  • Throughput of service matters

  • Tesla, unlike other auto manufacturers, services cars

    • Normally, car dealers, not manufacturers make money on service

    • Tesla does not make money on service

    • Tesla has an incentive to reduce servicing costs as much as possible

  • Tesla is working on automating vehicle diagnostics and prep work

    • Vehicle self-diagnoses, information is provided to Tesla

    • Parts arrive, lift is booked and tools prepared

    • Vehicle arrives, technician is fully aware of the issue and can immediately fix the problem without wasting time

    • Already, most of the time Tesla doesn’t need to diagnose the issue, the car diagnoses itself and reports potential problems to Service.

4680 Cell

  • Tesla has produced the 100 millionth 4680 cell in Q3 2024.

  • Rapidly becoming the most competitive cell in terms of price

    • Tesla’s internally produced 4680 will be the most cost-competitive cell in North America

  • Continued progress on the dry-cathode line and expanding past the initial test batch

  • Tesla will continue to rely upon external cell providers

    • Lots of capacity is needed for both vehicles and stationary storage that can’t be achieved internally

AI and Optimus

  • AI training capacity is still expanding

  • Tesla is not compute constrained right now, especially with Cortex coming online

    • FSD is getting good enough that it is hard to find and figure out issues

    • Can see 10,000 miles of FSD video and not find an issue in current builds

  • Tesla is testing both virtually and physically

    • Real-life physical testing offers additional benefits, interacting with real humans, etc.,

  • Optimus’ new hand has 22 DoF, and is extremely humanlike

    • Tesla is likely the only company that can scale humanoid robots

    • This is likely due to Tesla’s extreme vertical integration, including batteries, actuators, sensors, software, and inference

    • FSD provides the humanlike brain, while Tesla’s factories can provide volume production capabilities

  • Grok in Tesla / Infotainment

    • Tesla will keep expanding what’s available for infotainment, will include AI support

    • Will also include browser improvements, movies, games, productivity

Energy

  • Energy is still doing well, lots of space to continuing scaling this business sector

  • Megafactory Lathrop is doing 200 Megapacks a week, for 40GWh a year

  • Shanghai will begin doing 20GWh per year, starting Q1 2025

  • Tesla wants to ship at least 100GWh per year by the end of 2025

  • Tesla wants to meet the stationary energy demands for a sustainable energy future

    • This includes the delivery of multiple terawatt hours per year

  • No material limitations on stationary battery business expansion

    • No rare materials or complex procedures are involved in the production process

Financial & Deliveries

  • Tesla has pushed out record deliveries this quarter.

  • No other EV company or EV section of another automaker is profitable

  • Tesla’s future is the world’s future - autonomous and fully electric

  • As Tesla executes on its objectives, Tesla will become the most valuable company in the world.

  • Tesla has done an excellent job executing in a difficult fiscal and regulatory environment so far

  • As cyclic fiscal and standing regulatory challenges are overcome, Tesla can continue to expand and grow in value

  • Automotive revenue grew Quarter over Quarter

    • Financial incentives have hurt direct profit numbers, but increased overall sales considerably

    • Tesla will continue to offer compelling financing options, but sparingly

    • Tesla has a compelling overall package - safety, autonomy, features, total cost of ownership

    • Tesla acknowledges there is an awareness gap about these items with new and old buyers alike

  • Tesla has had their vehicle margins grow Quarter over Quarter due to optimizations

  • Tesla continues to squeeze costs without compromising on the customer experience

  • Tesla has benefitted from lower freight and duties by delivering vehicles locally in markets where possible

    • North American vehicles from North America, European vehicles from Giga Berlin, Asian vehicles from China

  • Decline in interest rates as economy steadies will have a drastic impact on automotive demand

    • Due to interest rates, people have been holding onto cars longer, especially in North America

    • This has impacted new vehicle sales, as people are hesitant to spend money

    • Tesla sees an opportunity to educate and find new buyers in this market sector

  • Energy saw a decline in Q3, due to cyclic conditions

    • Projects are long term, and many begin in Q3, while ending in other quarters

    • Q4 will show growth for Energy

    • Q3 has been Tesla’s off-quarter for Energy (2021, 2022, 2023)

  • Tesla’s Q2 restructuring continuing to impact the company, will have no more impacts after Q4

  • GPU deployments continue, and Tesla will continue making quarterly investments, but sparingly

    • As it stands, Tesla has more GPU capacity than they can work with now - not compute constrained

  • Fragmented regulatory landscape will cause issues for the rollout of the Robotaxi Network and Unsupervised FSD

  • Most automotive companies have not internalized autonomy or EVs, and Tesla is a leader in both sectors

If you’d like to listen to the earnings call, it’s available below.

Plus, Tesla put out a highlight list of some of their biggest achievements for this quarter here on X.

https://x.com/Tesla/status/1849180540408041859

Tesla’s Hollywood Diner: In-Car Controls & Theater Screens Turned On [VIDEO]

By Karan Singh
Sky Fox

Tesla has been quietly building something pretty unique on the streets of Hollywood—and we’ve been keeping a close eye on it. That’s right: the long-anticipated Tesla Hollywood Drive-In, Diner, and Supercharger is shaping up to be one of the most creative approaches to EV charging yet.

But this isn’t your average Supercharger site. It features a retro-futuristic, 24-hour diner and an outdoor movie theater, blending the charm of the 1980s with the tech-forward vibe of the 2020s.

Construction has been underway for quite some time, with the Cybertruck-inspired stainless steel structure going up around mid-2024. And more recently, we spotted hints in the Tesla app that the Diner’s debut is getting close.

Diner Controls in App / Car

Tesla hacker Greentheonly managed to spot some new evidence of changes within Tesla’s 2025.8.6 software build, which includes a new modal for “Charger Diner Controls”. While there isn’t anything to activate this new modal just yet, it is an indication of how Tesla intends to integrate the experience right into each and every Tesla.

The text in the modal reads: “Plug in, place your order, recharge” - which means that once you arrive and are plugged in, you’ll be able to place your order - and likely pay through Tesla’s payment system. It seems like this will all be done through either the Tesla app or the vehicle’s tocuh screen. No need to fumble with a separate app or pull out your wallet.

This is definitely a level of integration you just can’t have anywhere else - and just like any other Supercharger site, the Tesla Diner will appear as a suggested site for charging when you’re navigating or looking around the Hollywood area.

45-Foot Screens Ready

Those two absolutely gigantic 45-foot LED screens have now been turned on for the first time, meaning that Tesla is likely close to opening the Supercharger site. The screens were spotted displaying some test patterns, as well as some Tesla-themed content. It really brings the construction site to life - and it's the clearest sign that the Diner is well on its way to completion.

We’re hoping that this first Tesla Diner sees plenty of success - and that Tesla begins opening more of these types of facilities throughout North America, and eventually globally. Given Tesla’s penchant for unique Superchargers, we imagine this could truly be the case one day.

Tesla’s FSD V13 Pushes HW4 Hardware Capabilities; End of Line for HW3?

By Karan Singh
Not a Tesla App

As Tesla continues to push the capabilities of its hardware as it prepares for autonomy with FSD Unsupervised, there has been a distinct divergence in features between HW4-equipped vehicles on FSD V13, and HW3-equipped vehicles on FSD V12.6. 

There are definitely reasons for this, and Tesla hacker Greentheonly, over on X, went into great detail on some of the reasons why this divergence has continued and is likely to continue.

If you’re interested in some background, we recommend the following articles. Although they’re not necessary, you may enjoy reading them before diving right in if you enjoy this topic.

Back in the summer of 2024, we reported that Tesla’s HW4 had yet to reach its full potential, and that HW3 still had some compute to work with. However, FSD has undergone a rapid evolution - there are now fundamental differences driven by the hardware capabilities and sheer scale of the latest builds of FSD.

FSD V13’s Gargantuan Neural Networks

FSD V13 is a substantial leap for Tesla. It features substantially larger neural networks - the core brain that processes all the environmental data and makes decisions. Those networks are far larger in V13 than in V12, which results in a much smoother and human-like expereience.

Tesla’s FSD computers contain two nodes. According to Green’s analysis of FSD V13, Node B, which handles the actual end-to-end driving logic, tripled in size from 2.3 GB in V12 to a staggering 7.5 GB in V13. That’s a substantial increase, and one of the main reasons why HW3 can’t handle FSD V13. While Interestingly, Node A on HW4 remains similar in size to FSD V12, using up about 2.3 GB.

However, this massive size is also pushing the limits of HW4. While this isn’t necessarily a big problem immediately - at the end of the day, there is a limited amount of compute and ram available and model sizes will likely grow in the future. In fact, Tesla is planning to scale model sizes in the next FSD version and has already said they’ll need to optimize them, as context size is limited by on-board memory.

HW3 Limitations

Since HW3 can’t run the latest FSD models, where does this leave millions of Tesla vehicles equipped with the now-legacy FSD hardware? Are they hitting a dead end? Not exactly - Tesla has promised to replace HW3 computers with new units during the Q4 2024 Earnings Call, but only for those who have purchased FSD and only if Tesla is no longer able to update HW3 vehicles.

There’s no doubt Tesla hopes to achieve autonomy and then work backwards to make it compatible with HW3, but that’s unlikely to happen with the limited ram available on HW3.

Tesla’s AI team has continued to say that they’re still working on updating HW3 vehicles - but that they will be taking a backburner to updates for HW4 until the team can optimize the model efficiently enough to run on the smaller footprint. That means V12.6 isn’t just V13 “lite” - it is a distinctly different software branch tailored specifically for HW3’s capabilities.

Green's analysis showed that HW3 under V12.6 runs NNs totaling 1.2 GB on Node A and 3.1 GB on Node B, which is significantly smaller than the footprint of V13. Back in November, we discussed how Tesla is running a smaller and optimized FSD model on HW3, with the specific goal of achieving similar performance to V13. FSD V12.6 appears to be the current implementation of that smaller model strategy.

Green also found that of the total neural nets used for FSD, 135 are shared between the current V12.6 and FSD V13.2 releases, which is the result of Tesla’s AI team working to optimize and refine the V13 model for HW3. So some neural nets are shared between the two sets of hardware, while others are specific to HW3 or HW4.

AI4 in the Future

The fact that V13 is already stretching HW4’s limits makes us wonder about Tesla’s imminent release of AI5. Last year, Tesla mentioned that AI5 would be 18 months away - which is now about 8 months away, and potentially even sooner to help solve the autonomy problem.

At the same time, Tesla is looking to launch Unsupervised FSD in June in Austin, Texas, with presumably HW4, which would indicate that they’re confident in its capabilities.

Unless Tesla launches the Robotaxi network with AI5, we don’t believe AI5 will be a “must have” item. Undoubtedly, it will result in similar improvements to HW4 compared to HW3. However, the software needed to take advantage of the newer hardware could still be years away.

All eyes will be on Tesla’s Robotaxi network launch and the hardware required for it. For now, HW4 owners are in good hands with future updates are on the horizon, and we’re certainly excited for what’s next.

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