After a month-long delay, Tesla sent FSD v12.4.2 to employees yesterday with update 2024.15.10. After just a few hours of the update going out to employees, Tesla started sending it to OG testers as well, who were already on FSD v12.4.1.
Issues Behind Delay
On X, Elon Musk broke down some of the details behind the delays. He mentioned that part of the issues behind the V12.4.2 delays were based on training. Tesla was seeing fewer interventions with FSD v12.4, but the release suffered from driving smoothness, which ironically was supposed to be one of the key features of this release.
Musk explained that part of the issue was due to too much focus on interventions, and not enough on normal driving. He compared it to training a doctor on emergency room patients, versus training on regular preventative care.
Vision-Based Attention Monitoring Changes
With FSD update 12.4.2, Tesla changed some of the language used for its Vision-Based Attention Monitoring in the release notes. Here’s a breakdown of some of the key points in the language. The changes to the release notes are below. Phrases or words that were removed are crossed out, while those added are in bold.
“When Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is enabled, the driver monitoring system now primarily relies on the cabin camera to determine driver attentiveness. This enhancement is available on vehicles equipped with a cabin camera and only when the cabin camera has clear and continuous visibility of the driver's eyes Cabin camera must have clear visibility (e.g., the camera is not occluded, eyes, arms are visible, there is sufficient cabin illumination, and the driver is looking forward at the road ahead and not wearing sunglasses, a hat with a low brimwithout sunglasses, or other objects covering thetheir eyes). Outside of theseIn other circumstances, the driver monitoring system will continue toprimarily rely on a combination of torque-based (steering wheel) and vision-based monitoring to detect driver attentiveness. When the cabin camera is actively monitoring driver attentiveness, a green dot appears next to the steering wheel icon on the touchscreen.
If the cabin camera detects inattentiveness the driver to be inattentive, a warning will appear. The warning can be dismissed by the driver immediately reverting their attention back to the road ahead. Warnings will escalate depending on the nature and frequency of detected inattentiveness, with continuous inattention leading to a Strikeout.
Cabin camera images do not leave the vehicle itself, which means the system cannot save or transmit information unless you enable data sharing.”
Arms Need to be Visible and Other Changes
There are various interesting changes here. While some of the changes are just improved wording to make the feature clearer, there are others that are worth highlighting which could point at changes to Tesla’s vision-based monitoring.
The first is the addition of “arms are visible.” Apparently, Tesla now wants to be able to see your arms to better detect attentiveness. Tesla may want to see that your arms are on the steering wheel, or they maybe they want to make sure your arms are moving so that someone isn’t able to post a static photo in front of the cabin camera to circumvent the attention monitoring. The reason isn’t clear, but looks like having your arms visible is now a requirement.
There are other small changes like the removal of a “hat with a low brim,” which was replaced by more generic wording that says the driver’s eyes must be visible.
However, near the end, Tesla removed the portion that said the driver monitoring system will rely on a combination of torque-based (steering wheel) and vision-based monitoring. This was changed to simply say that Tesla will rely primarily on torque-based (steering wheel) monitoring when vision-based monitoring is unavailable. It’s not clear whether this is just semantics and the wording now better describes how the vision-monitoring feature works, or if Tesla made changes so that the vehicle is simply either doing vision monitoring or steering wheel torque detection, and it doesn’t try to combine the two sources to detect whether the driver is paying attention.
Even more interestingly, the last line that says “cabin camera images do not leave the vehicle itself, which means the system cannot save or transmit information unless you enable data sharing,” has been removed. This could point to Tesla saving images of the cabin camera to improve its AI training model.
Either way, we’re glad to finally see FSD v12.4.2 going out to employees and early-access owners. The release is expected to have far fewer interventions and improve vehicle smoothness during braking and acceleration. If there are no major issues found, this update could go wide to all customers with FSD and on update 2024.14 or lower in the coming weeks.
In an undocumented change in Tesla update 2024.20 and later, Tesla has added a minor, but privacy-focused change to its software. Tesla has a user privacy-first focused policy, which aligns with the expansion of user privacy changes.
Location Privacy
Since late 2023 (update 2023.38), Tesla has been showing a small location icon at the top of the screen any time the vehicle’s location is being accessed, either by Tesla or a third-party app.
This includes someone using the Tesla app, which displays the vehicle’s location on a map. However, as of update 2024.20 and later, Tesla is now expanding the information shown.
Previously, when the icon was tapped, it would display a general message explaining why the icon was appearing. The message stated:
“This icon appears when an app requests your vehicle's live location data. You can turn off sharing anytime in Controls > Safety > Allow Mobile Access, including all Tesla app access. When this setting is on, your vehicle communicates directly with the Tesla app and other apps, but Tesla doesn't track your location.”
The same text is still displayed, but now boldly says, “This icon appears when an app requests your vehicle’s life location data.”.
More importantly, Tesla now displays the service that is accessing the vehicle’s location (h/t DriveTeslaCanada). So if someone opens the Tesla app, the vehicle will now display that the vehicle’s location is being accessed by the “Tesla Mobile App.” In addition, it appears to also display which Tesla driver or account is viewing the location of the vehicle. If it’s a third-party app or service accessing the vehicle’s location, Tesla will display the name of the registered third-party app.
Disabling Location Sharing
Tesla states that you can still turn off sharing in the same location as before (Controls > Safety > Allow Mobile Access), but doing so prevents many features of the Tesla app from working. If you use a third-party service, the location information is also tied to gathering detailed data on the vehicle, making it an “all or nothing” option.
If you have a service request active, Tesla Service may also ask you to re-enable Location Services so that Mobile Service can find your vehicle.
Unfortunately, there isn’t a history of which apps have accessed your vehicle’s location over a certain period. The location icon and detailed information are only available for a few seconds when the icon is displayed.
Rimac, the company behind the Rimac Nevera electric hypercar, has announced that it intends to produce a robotaxi, and it looks quite similar to Tesla’s concepts. Much of what we’ve heard about Tesla’s upcoming robotaxi, the Cybercab, is featured in Rimac’s autonomous vehicle. From the two seats to the airy interior and the center-screen-focused interior, it’s all here, although there are significant differences as well. Rimac’s prototype, called Verne, was revealed on Wednesday, June 26th.
Verne Robotaxi
Verne will include a 43
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The Verne is expected to begin operation in 2026 and is a two-seater robotaxi using Mobileye’s LiDAR technology. The vehicle is expected to be a level 4 autonomous vehicle, which means it would still require remote support for handling complex situations, similar to Waymo’s work in San Franciso.
The Verne has a 43” display, and 17 speakers, and is supposedly designed to emulate “a room on wheels”, with an inside-out design concept. Interestingly, rather than regular doors, the Verne has doors that swing forward horizontally, along with a keypad-based entry system.
A smaller screen between the front seats lets you control certain aspects of the vehicle
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Rimac says they have signed agreements to launch in 11 cities in the EU, the UK, and the Middle East. They have also mentioned they are negotiating contracts with 30 more cities worldwide.
Rimac also showed off images of its robotaxi app and a concept building for its robotaxis – presumably a charging and service hub.
The verne will feature sliding doors, a lot like a minivan
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Comparing Rimac’s Robotaxi to Tesla’s
Although Tesla has yet to reveal the Cybercab, there are several things Tesla has already talked about for their upcoming robotaxi. One key difference between Rimac’s vision and Tesla’s is that Tesla appears to be chasing the cheapest possible transport, with Tesla previously touting ride prices that would rival bus ticket prices. While Rimac appears to focus more on an ideal experience. While everyone loves extra luxury, at the end of the day, price usually wins.
The Rimac robotaxi app
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One example is Tesla’s single center screen, compared to Rimac’s two screens. In addition to the viewable 43” center display, which presumably is not a touch-screen, Rimac has a separate screen and controls between both passenger seats. Tesla’s approach appears to focus on a single screen, with the user controlling much of the car’s control such as music and climate through Tesla’s robotaxi app.
Another example is Rimac’s idea of including an entry pad and screen on the outside of the vehicle for passenger to be able to unlock the vehicle. Tesla’s approach to unlocking a vehicle is expected to rely on temporary keys that are tied to user’s phones leveraging ultra wideband, a lot like how Tesla’s phone keys work today on newer vehicles.
Tesla’s approach to autonomy is also drastically different than Mobileye’s, which relies on radar, LiDAR and more cameras than Tesla’s Autopilot suite today.
Viability
This announcement from Rimac is a bit of an oddity. As a company, Rimac has produced less than 150 vehicles in their short lifespan – all hand-designed and hand-produced Rimac Nevara hypercars. Their ability to scale to produce more than a handful of these Verne robotaxis, while visually appealing, is questionable at best.
On the same front, Rimac recently received a $200M Euro grant from the EU as part of a package to develop an economic recovery plan for Croatia. Rimac has also received $80M Euros in funding from Hyundai and Kia – but that was to collaborate on a high-performance fuel cell electric vehicle, and a high-performance EV sports car.
The exterior of the Verne robotaxi
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Beyond that, Rimac has never done any work with autonomy – the self-driving tech that is running the Verne is entirely based on the outsourced work from Mobileye. It seems that the Verne will serve as Mobileye’s real-life test on whether its technology can be integrated into a Robotaxi platform on its own.
Tesla previously used Mobileye’s technology for its own autonomy during its inception years (AP 1) but quickly moved on towards using its own vision-based camera tech instead.
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