Tesla's Q3 Earnings Call: Elon Musk's Concerns About the Economy and How It Affects Tesla

By Kevin Armstrong
Tesla's Model Y starting price across the U.S.
Tesla's Model Y starting price across the U.S.
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Elon Musk had a distinct note of concern about the current economic climate, particularly the high-interest rate environment, during the 2023 third-quarter earnings call.

Tesla's earnings dropped by 37% from a year earlier, marking the smallest profit in two years. The company's third-quarter revenue saw a 9% boost from the previous year. However, Tesla fell short of Wall Street expectations on both fronts.

The company's profit margins have also slimmed. Its gross margin stood at 17.9%, a seven percentage point dip from a year ago. The adjusted automotive margin, a metric closely watched by industry experts, fell by nearly 11 percentage points to about 18%.

Interest Rates and Car Affordability

Musk began by highlighting that buying a car boils down to the monthly payment for most people. "The vast majority of people buying a car is about the monthly payment... as interest rates rise, the proportion of that monthly payment that is interest increases naturally," Musk stressed.

With rising interest rates, a larger portion of the monthly payment goes toward interest, making it difficult for many to afford the car. He stresses, "If interest rates keep rising, you just fundamentally reduce affordability."

This is a particular concern for Tesla, as they are tracking for the Model Y to be the best-selling car globally, not just in revenue but unit volume. Musk explains that high-interest rates can reduce the affordability of their vehicles, likening rising interest rates to an increase in the car's price.

Listen to Replay of the Earnings Call

Historical Lessons from 2009

Musk's concerns are not unfounded. He vividly recalls 2009 when General Motors and Chrysler filed for bankruptcy. Musk recounts Tesla's close brush with the financial crisis, detailing how they closed a financing round on Christmas Eve, without which they would have failed to meet payroll just two days after Christmas. The memory serves as a poignant reminder for Musk, who emphasizes, "I don't want to be going at top speed into uncertainty."

Despite the looming economic concerns, Tesla has growth opportunities. Giga Texas still has ample space to expand production, pointing out that they are "only occupying a tiny corner of the land that we have." However, Musk noted that one of their major challenges is personnel, as the greater Austin area has a limited population, which is further constrained by a housing crisis.

The Importance of Car Price

Musk touched upon price elasticity, comparing Tesla vehicles to other cars like the RAV4. He emphasized the importance of making Tesla vehicles more affordable for the majority, iterating, "Cost is not an optional thing for most people; it is a necessary thing." He further explained that due to rising interest rates, even though Tesla has reduced the prices of vehicles like the Model Y, the monthly payment for customers remains almost the same due to the increased interest component.

The Wider Banking and Credit Situation

Musk also dived into a more significant credit situation. He pointed out that acquiring credit has become a challenge for many. Many banks have become more cautious, and some, like Credit Suisse, have even collapsed, which was an unexpected shock for many. He added, "People are reading about wars all over the world. Buying a new car tends not to be front of mind.

Elon Musk's concerns mirror the more considerable anxieties surrounding the global economy. The call served as a reminder that even industry giants like Tesla are not immune to global economic shifts and uncertainties.

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Tesla LFP Batteries Can Now Be Warmed up While Supercharging Using Innovative Feature

By Karan Singh
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Tesla’s been on a roll with Supercharger improvements lately, from the 325kW charging update for the Cybertruck, to 500kW with V4 Superchargers coming next year. While those improvements have been limited to the Cybertruck, Tesla didn’t put all their focus on their new flagship vehicle, but looked at their more affordable vehicles as well.

LFP Battery Heating

Tesla’s Superchargers can now heat LFP Batteries - those that are in the Model 3 and Model Y Rear Wheel Drive variants. This applies to Long Range and Standard Range models, which saw a limited run. This is another update included as part of the 2024 Tesla Holiday Update - which really arrived with a lot of unannounced new features and capabilities.

The change is pretty interesting - Superchargers of the V3 and V4 variety can now pre-heat batteries for Model 3 and Model Y vehicles equipped with LFP battery packs. That means those vehicles are able to get back on the road faster when it's extremely cold. Of course, Tesla still advises you to precondition before you arrive, saving drivers time and money.

Max de Zegher, Tesla’s Director of Charging, also commented on the new feature. Essentially, Tesla is inducing an AC (alternating) ripple current through the battery to warm it up. Keep in mind that Superchargers are DC charging. That means it is possible to get a cold-soaked LFP vehicle on the road 4x faster than before, assuming that it didn’t precondition at all and that it is in the worst-case scenario (below 0ºF).

In essence, Tesla is using some engineering magic to turn the circuits inside the LFP battery into an electric heater - and powering that heater through the Supercharger. An AC ripple current is a small oscillation in the DC charging current that generates heat through electrical resistance, warming up the battery. Those ripples are a byproduct of converting AC to DC and back - so Tesla is using the onboard charger to induce those ripples to warm up the battery. Definitely an innovative technique that’s really only possible with the versatility of the NACS connector.

We’re hoping Tesla can implement this across their full lineup of vehicles, but we’ll have to wait and see how it is trialed across LFP vehicles first and if it is even possible on vehicles with 2170 or 4680 battery packs.

Tesla Included FSD V12.6.1 and V13.2.4 in the Same Update: What Caused This and What It Means

By Karan Singh
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Tesla launched two FSD updates simultaneously on Saturday night, and what’s most interesting is that they arrived on the same software version. We’ll dig into that a little later, but for now, there’s good news for everyone. For Hardware 3 owners, FSD V12.6.1 is launching to all vehicles, including the Model 3 and Model Y. For AI4 owners, FSD V13.2.4 is launching, starting with the Cybertruck.

FSD V13.2.4

A new V13 build is now rolling out to the Cybertruck and is expected to arrive for the rest of the AI4 fleet soon. However, this build seems to be focused on bug fixes. There are no changes to the release notes for the Cybertruck with this release, and it’s unlikely to feature any changes when it arrives on other vehicles.

While this update focuses on bug fixes, Tesla’s already working on bigger features for FSD V13.3, which we have already confirmed to include improvements to highway following and speed control.

FSD V12.6.1

FSD V12.6.1 builds upon V12.6, which is the latest FSD version for HW3 vehicles. While FSD V12.6 was only released for the redesigned Model S and Model X with HW3, FSD V12.6.1 is adding support for the Model 3 and Model Y.

While this is only a bug-fix release for users coming from FSD V12.6, it includes massive improvements for anyone coming from an older FSD version. Two of the biggest changes are the new end-to-end highway stack that now utilizes FSD V12 for highway driving and a redesigned controller that allows FSD to drive “V13” smooth.

It also adds speed profiles, earlier lane changes, and more. You can read our in-depth look at all the changes in FSD V12.6.

Same Update, Multiple FSD Builds

What’s interesting about this software version is that it “includes" two FSD updates, V12.6.1 for HW3 and V13.2.4 for HW4 vehicles. While this is interesting, it’s less special when you understand what’s happening under the hood.

The vehicle’s firmware and Autopilot firmware are actually completely separate. While a vehicle downloading a firmware update may look like a singular process, it’s actually performing several functions during this period. First, it downloads the vehicle’s firmware. Upon unpacking the update, it’s instructed which Autopilot/FSD firmware should be downloaded.

While the FSD firmware is separate, the vehicle can’t download any FSD update. The FSD version is hard-coded in the vehicle’s firmware that was just downloaded. This helps Tesla keep the infotainment and Autopilot firmware tightly coupled, leading to fewer issues.

What we’re seeing here is that HW3 vehicles are being told to download one FSD version, while HW4 vehicles are being told to download a different version.

While this is the first time Tesla has had two FSD versions tied to the same vehicle software version, the process hasn’t actually changed, and what we’re seeing won’t lead to faster FSD updates or the ability to download FSD separately. What we’re seeing is the direct result of the divergence of HW3 and HW4.

While HW3/4 remained basically on the same FSD version until recently, it is now necessary to deploy different versions for the two platforms. We expect this to be the norm going forward, where HW3 will be on a much different version of FSD than HW4. While each update may not include two different FSD versions going forward, we may see it occasionally, depending on which features Autopilot is dependent on.

Thanks to Greentheonly for helping us understand what happened with this release and for the insight into Tesla’s processes.

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