Tesla's Model Y With Hardware 4.0 Doesn't Include Radar: We Take a Look at Why

By Kevin Armstrong
Tesla's Model Y with HW4 is coming without radar
Tesla's Model Y with HW4 is coming without radar
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As Tesla continues to redefine the automotive industry, insiders have revealed that the company's upcoming Hardware 4.0 (HW4) will not include the radar module in its Model Y vehicles, at least not initially. This marks a shift in the company's approach towards autonomous driving, relying more heavily on vision-based systems. This strategic decision builds on the recent introduction of HW4 in the luxury Model S and Model X models.

HW4 Evolution and Vision Focus:

Previously, the integration of HD radar in the Model S and Model X indicated an evolution in the company's Full Self-Driving (FSD) hardware. However, according to a trusted source, Tesla is not including HD radar in its new Model Ys with HW4. This surprising decision could mean several things, possibly indicating that Tesla views HD radar as a "ground truth" to help improve their vision systems rather than a vital component for FSD vehicles.

Ground-truth Radar: A Tool for Vision Improvement:

In this sense, ground truth refers to the objective reality or facts of a situation, typically used as a benchmark to measure the accuracy of an AI system's predictions or observations.

Last year, Tesla registered a new high-resolution radar unit with the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a move that sparked speculation about the company's approach to FSD. The radar unit, intended for imaging similar to LiDAR, hinted at Tesla's continuing interest in using ground-truth systems to train their machine-learning algorithms for vision accuracy. Despite Elon Musk's well-documented skepticism towards LiDAR for autonomous driving, Tesla prototypes have been spotted with LiDAR sensors.

HD Radar to be Added Later?

Although Tesla may be using its radar in HW4 vehicles to improve their vision system, other possibilities could have led Tesla to this decision. New Model Ys with HW4 may only be without radar temporarily, possibly due to a supply chain issue. New owners would still better off receiving a vehicle with HW4 and without radar than a HW3-equipped vehicle due to the improved cameras and faster FSD computer that includes redundancy.

Cost Savings

Of course, HD radar inclusion could also come down to cost. With the Model Y costing almost half of Tesla's luxury models, this decision could come down to cost. If Tesla believes their FSD system could perform almost identically to vehicles with radar, they may simply decide to forego the radio technology in lower-cost vehicles.

Balancing Vision and Radar: The Trade-Off:

While HD radar and LiDAR can provide highly accurate 3D depth measurements, their high cost and potential to overwhelm the FSD system with conflicting data have led Tesla to prioritize camera-based vision systems. Musk has consistently argued that self-driving cars should navigate the world in the same manner as human drivers, using cameras and computational power to navigate three-dimensional space.

Model Y With HW4 But Without HD Radar:

While excluding HD radar from the HW4 in Model Y might seem like a setback, it could prove to be a game-changer. Tesla's strategy of using radar to enhance vision rather than as a core component of its FSD system means that these vehicles may not be as disadvantaged as initially thought.

This approach is consistent with Tesla's earlier decision to remove ultrasonic sensors from some vehicles, enabling them to run vision-based park assist code and compare vision readings to ultrasonic sensor readings. This resulted in significant improvements in vision detection, further solidifying Tesla's commitment to a vision-oriented future.

Introducing HW4 into the Model Y may suggest Tesla's potential future strategies. For instance, commercial Robotaxis may employ multi-sensor systems, including radar and possibly LiDAR, to achieve full automation. Conversely, consumer self-driving vehicles could maintain the vision-only approach to keep costs down.

Ultimately, the transition to HW4 indicates Tesla's unwavering pursuit of refining autonomous driving technology. As the landscape of self-driving vehicles continues to evolve, it will be interesting to see how Tesla's approach shapes the future of this sector.

Tesla’s Q2 2025 Earnings Call: What to Expect and Top Questions

By Karan Singh
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Another quarter has passed, and that means it’s time to submit questions and vote for Tesla’s Q2 2025 Earnings Call. While Q1 was a tough quarter for the company, Q2 saw some recovery in sales, although there’s still some work to be done.

However, there’s always a lot to be excited about during Tesla’s Q&A session, where we usually learn a lot about future software improvements and upcoming vehicles. We may hear more about FSD Unsupervised, Robotaxi, or the more affordable vehicle, or its upcoming larger 6-seater Model Y, the Model Y L. Tesla also mentioned a potential FSD price hike back in the Q1 2025 Earnings Call, so that could be something that is brought up as well.

Tesla’s Q2 So Far

Tesla has already released their Q2 2025 Production and Delivery numbers, which were up from Q1 of this year, but still down compared to Q2 last year.

Production

Deliveries

Model 3/Y

396,835

373,728

Model S, X, and Cybertruck

13,409

10,394

Total

410,244

384,122

How to Submit & Vote

Tesla lets shareholders submit a question that will be voted on and may be answered during the Q&A session. To submit your own question or vote on an already submitted question, you’ll need to be a verified shareholder. You can go to Say’s platform and link your brokerage accounts.

Once it is verified, you’ll be able to log in and vote your shares on your own question, or on someone else’s question.

Here’s the link to get started on Say’s Tesla Q&A. You must submit your questions and votes by July 23rd, 2025, at 4:00 PM EDT.

Top Questions So Far

Unsurprisingly, people have already been submitting questions, and here are the top ones so far. 

  1. Can you give us some insight how robotaxis have been performing so far and what rate you expect to expand in terms of vehicles, geofence, cities, and supervisors?

  2. What are the key technical and regulatory hurdles still remaining for unsupervised FSD to be available for personal use? Timeline?

  3. What specific factory tasks is Optimus currently performing, and what is the expected timeline for scaling production to enable external sales? How does Tesla envision Optimus contributing to revenue in the next 2–3 years?

  4. Can you provide an update on the development and production timeline for Tesla’s more affordable models? How will these models balance cost reduction with profitability, and what impact do you expect on demand in the current economic climate?

  5. Are there any news for HW3 users getting retrofits or upgrades? Will they get HW4 or some future version of HW5?

  6. When do you anticipate customer vehicles to receive unsupervised FSD?

And here are some other ones we found interesting:

  • Have any meaningful Optimus milestones changed for this year or next and will thousands of Optimus be performing tasks in Tesla factories by year end?

  • Are front bumper cameras going to be necessary for unsupervised full self driving? If so, what is the companies plan to retrofit vehicles that do not have them?

  • Will there be a new AI day to explain the advancements the Autopilot, Optimus, and Dojo/chip teams have made over the past several years. We still do not know much about the HW4.

Earnings Call Details

Tesla will hold its earnings call on Wednesday, July 23rd, at 4:00 PM EDT. It's still early for an access link, but we’ll make sure we have a link up on the site before the earnings call that day.

If you do miss the earnings call, no worries. We will provide a full recap following the call, and we’ll also do some in-depth dives into what was said and what we know.

First Look at Tesla’s 2025.26 Update [Photos + Videos]

By Karan Singh
DirtyTesla

Tesla’s Summer Update, 2025.26, has finally launched, bringing with it a batch of interesting new features for some, and a bunch of quality-of-life improvements for everyone else.

Grok AI Assistant

The star of the Summer Update is Grok, xAI’s conversational AI assistant, which has now landed in Tesla vehicles. For now, it's available in any Tesla that has an AMD processor and is potentially coming to Intel-based vehicles in the near future. The feature is also only available in the U.S., but it’s expected to expand to other regions — hopefully soon.

Grok is in its first iteration as an in-vehicle assistant, and for now, cannot control the vehicle, which means that Tesla’s voice command system is still intact. However, there is a lot it can do already. Grok is activated by pressing and holding the voice button (right scroll wheel on older vehicles), while a short press of the button is still reserved for voice commands. Grok will support a wake word in the future, letting you activate it without pressing a button.

Grok Options

Once Grok is open, which can also be done by tapping the Grok app icon, users can tailor the AI personality according to their preferences by selecting a persona and voice of their choice.

There are also several other settings for Grok under the settings button. You can enable NSFW mode, Kids Mode, or disable access to your vehicle’s location.

Grok has contextual awareness of your vehicle location, which means it can provide relevant answers to questions like “Where should I go for dinner?”

Logging In Not Required

Grok is free with Premium Connectivity, or if you’re using your phone’s hotspot feature or connected to WiFi, so anyone can try it for free. In fact, you don’t even need to log in to start using Grok. However, logging in adds some additional features.

If you’d like to log in, you can do so by scanning the QR code in the vehicle, which will provide chat management and transcripts, SuperGrok access (if you pay for a subscription), and better privacy control.

Light Sync

Tesla has added a new Light Sync feature that pulses the vehicle’s ambient lighting in sync with the music being played. This option is turned on under Toybox > Light Sync. There are also a few options, including the ability to match the ambient light colors to the album’s artwork, instead of using your selected color.

In addition, in Park you can enable Rave Cave when parked, which cranks up the ambient lighting brightness to the maximum.

Dashcam App Update

The Dashcam app now allows you to adjust playback speeds, just like the older Dashcam Viewer, which is still used on Intel-based vehicles.

In addition to adjusting playback speed, you can now adjust the video view so that it’s displayed without being obstructed by the buttons at the top (video below). The difference is small, but could be useful if you’re trying to see something slightly out of view or that’s hidden behind the top Dashcam buttons.

While the Cybertruck has also received the updated Dashcam Viewer with this update, it does not have the new B-pillar camera recordings like other HW4 cars.

Sentry Mode Glow

Sentry Mode is getting one of the best uses of the vehicle’s ambient lighting that we’ve seen so far. The ambient lighting will now slowly pulse red while Sentry Mode is activated to grab someone’s attention, instead of just relying on the vehicle’s display.

While you can disable Sentry Mode sounds, we’d love to see an even more stealthy Sentry Mode that also disables the ambient lighting and screen, allowing the vehicle to record without anyone being aware.

Since the ambient lighting is being used in this case to make people more aware of a feature, Tesla could also use it in other modes, such as Dog Mode.

There are a lot of potential uses for ambient lighting. Tesla can make it glow while the vehicle is charging, with the brightness potentially related to the vehicle's charge level.

Supercharger Site Info at Arrival

When you navigate to a Supercharger, new icons in the charger list will indicate locations that require valet service or pay-to-park access.

Upon arrival at the location, a notification will appear on your screen, displaying important details such as access codes, parking restrictions, level/floor information for parking garages, and restroom availability. This information will also be available on the site card in the navigation.

Equalizer Presets

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Tesla has moved the audio settings from the music player, directly into the vehicle settings — making them much easier to find. In addition to creating a new “Audio” section in settings, you can now create and save equalizer presets.

Each preset can have a name, custom EQ settings, and a setting for immersive audio.

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Onboarding Guide

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Tesla has introduced a new Onboarding Guide for new owners. The guide covers driver settings, touchscreen use, steering wheel and seat setup, and how to control key portions of the vehicle, including lights, wipers, and Autopilot features.

The Onboarding Guide is automatically initiated when a new owner accepts delivery of a Tesla, or can be manually initiated at any time by going to Controls > Service > Onboarding Guide.

This appears to only be available for the new Model 3 and new Model Y.

Rollout

Update 2025.26

FSD Supervised 12.6.4 & 13.2.9
Installed on 1.5% of fleet
58 Installs today
Last updated: Jul 18, 11:45 pm UTC

In typical Tesla fashion, this 2025.26 update is rolling out gradually in small waves initially. Three waves have already gone out, so all signs are looking good for it going into a wide release soon.

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