When will we see a major new update? I can't complain of what I have 13.2.2 but excited about our future!
FSD 13.3 or 13.4
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Seems like there was a lot of pressure to get v13 features out with the holiday update, and now that 12.6.1 is out for HW3, Tesla isn't telling us what's coming next or when. Perhaps the FSD team got a week off.
It could be that the next 'big' release will be getting the Cybertruck up to true v13.2.2 speed, with reverse capability, etc.
Aside from the 'coming features' in the release notes, I have no idea what Tesla is working on for the next release, although I assume it has to do with parking.
It could be that the next 'big' release will be getting the Cybertruck up to true v13.2.2 speed, with reverse capability, etc.
Aside from the 'coming features' in the release notes, I have no idea what Tesla is working on for the next release, although I assume it has to do with parking.
Looks like 13.2.6 went out to quite a few cars and now has slowed down to a stop. Maybe that means a decent jump is in the works ‘soon’ ? 13.2.2 was very good today going around a car being towed on a narrow curvy mountain road with a double yellow. It seemed to understand that we were being waved along into the oncoming traffic lane, did so very naturally
. That almost makes up for it trying to make a left out of a parking lot exit that was right turn only every time.
. That almost makes up for it trying to make a left out of a parking lot exit that was right turn only every time.I'll speculate. It's been since September since newer features of V13 were last updated in the release notes. The fact that we not only haven't seen these updates (3x this and that), we haven't even heard a whisper about them. I think we have a combination of issues.
First, the team has been focused on other FSD promises since September, including foreign country releases, and then robotaxis. There must be a ton of enforced learning there that will have to benefit the rest of us when we get it.
Second, that last part of V13 sounds like it was tougher than expected - save the hardest parts for last. I think parking lots alone and parking in general is probably a lot harder that driving on the highway. This part doesn't really stress the vision system or need speedy reflexes. It needs a competent planner, which it obviously lacks in 13.2.8. I still don't know how they do neural net training on a particular task (like mastering parking lots), but perhaps their initial plan didn't get the results needed.
That said, what's next for us? I think v13.3 - or jump to v14.x. If the robotaxi work pays off, perhaps jump right to it.
First, the team has been focused on other FSD promises since September, including foreign country releases, and then robotaxis. There must be a ton of enforced learning there that will have to benefit the rest of us when we get it.
Second, that last part of V13 sounds like it was tougher than expected - save the hardest parts for last. I think parking lots alone and parking in general is probably a lot harder that driving on the highway. This part doesn't really stress the vision system or need speedy reflexes. It needs a competent planner, which it obviously lacks in 13.2.8. I still don't know how they do neural net training on a particular task (like mastering parking lots), but perhaps their initial plan didn't get the results needed.
That said, what's next for us? I think v13.3 - or jump to v14.x. If the robotaxi work pays off, perhaps jump right to it.
I think it is about time we get another FSD version, but being that we are only weeks away from June. The more likely scenario is that we get a v14 or a newer version of v13 with the initial RoboTaxi release. That is, if they even release it right away to the public, and if they don't also simultaneously release both a supervised and unsupervised version with different pricing than currently. The future isn't looking bright for FSD for consumers.
I'm thinking V13.x comes out with much improved and extensive end-of-drive performance. Basically finish the roadmap, and layer on the user interface for a robotaxi, if making a car into a robotaxi. Add more features to the performance we already have.
I think if Tesla makes significant changes to the planner, as in it starts to understand traffic patterns - THAT would be v14. Something just plain smarter.
With Model Y robotaxis, I do wonder a lot how Tesla will handle people who don't know how to open the doors. Plus you cannot see the door handles at night. Same wonder about opening the trunk for luggage. I don't think driving will be much of an issue, if Tesla can master parking and dropping off.
I think if Tesla makes significant changes to the planner, as in it starts to understand traffic patterns - THAT would be v14. Something just plain smarter.
With Model Y robotaxis, I do wonder a lot how Tesla will handle people who don't know how to open the doors. Plus you cannot see the door handles at night. Same wonder about opening the trunk for luggage. I don't think driving will be much of an issue, if Tesla can master parking and dropping off.
I'm hopeful but skeptical, especially about timeline or timeframe rather. I think we will still be waiting a long while for a new FSD version, especially because the tests they have conducted so far are in fairly controlled environments with a fairly small number of cars (at least to my knowledge). And seeing the recent posts about them possibly wanting to raise the price of FSD, it also has me concerned on whether it will be viable for me to continue subscribing.
I do agree, that whatever version they release next will likely be primarily focused on end-of-drive performance, but I also don't think that it will have many more of the promised features. Hard to tell with Tesla, but they tend to take their time, which I appreciate from a safety standpoint, but hate from an enthusiast standpoint.
My main question, however, is how will they handle poor weather conditions? Will they just stop operating the network if it becomes too hard for the car to see? Will any operating vehicle just pull over on the side of the road with the passengers still inside? How do they plan to address different driving surfaces like snow, ice, gravel, dirt, etc.?
My experience in poor weather is that it works just as well if not better than I did but that remains to be seen.
Not to change the subject but- what's happening with the Tesla-Fi stats listed on this site? Looks like 80%+ is only 800 or so cars now when it used to be thousands.
Not to change the subject but- what's happening with the Tesla-Fi stats listed on this site? Looks like 80%+ is only 800 or so cars now when it used to be thousands.